Wrestling
JBL and Ron Simmons Reveal the Real Story Behind the APA’s Famous Bar Fights
BY SACNILK
Before they became known as the Acolytes Protection Agency, JBL and Ron Simmons had already established themselves as a tough tag team in WWE. The APA eventually took that identity in a different direction, with the two men regularly shown drinking beer, playing cards and getting into fights in bars and backstage areas. The gimmick became one of the most understood parts of their run together. According to JBL and Simmons Chris Van Vliet, however, those bar-fight segments were not produced like carefully choreographed movie scenes. The pair recalled that WWE did not have many established rules for the type of destruction they were asked to perform, and some of the chaos came from simply figuring things out as they went. JBL explained that the APA's segments were happening at a time when wrestlers were not working with the same type of stunt coordination that is common in entertainment today. “We had real people ask if it was real beer. Yes. It was real every time. I didn’t even know if they had fake Hollywood beer at the time. We didn’t have OSHA. We didn’t have none of that crap. We had the first ladder matches and stuff. We didn’t have stunt coordinators. We were just guys doing stuff and hoping it worked.” The former WWE Champion then recalled one particular bar-fight segment involving Bull Buchanan that went wrong in a way that became another memorable APA story. JBL said he was supposed to throw Buchanan through a gimmicked wall, but Buchanan warned him that they were heading toward the wrong wall. The situation did not go according to plan, and the two ended up crashing through the wall and into a bathroom. “I’ve got Bull Buchanan. I’m going to throw him through a wall and we gimmick the wall and Bull says, ‘That’s the wrong wall.’ And I go, ‘I’m sorry.’ We go through a wall. We land in a toilet. He didn’t go through. He went through it. We land by a toilet. We went through a wall and went into a bathroom.” The story became even more unusual when the two explained who owned the bar where the segment took place. According to JBL and Simmons, the owner, Tim White, would actually give them instructions about what he wanted destroyed because he planned to replace certain items afterward. White's instructions reportedly turned the destruction into something of a renovation project. “Tim would give us a list of stuff he wanted broken so we could rebuild it. He had a jukebox that didn’t even work and we threw a guy through the jukebox by Tim’s request. He got like a digital jukebox to replace it. He had an analog television that didn’t work. He goes, ‘Guys, would you guys break my television?’ He got like a flat-screen TV to replace it.” Simmons added that the APA essentially ended up rebuilding the bar through their WWE segments. “We rebuilt his bar, man. Rebuilt his entire bar.” JBL then recalled how Vince McMahon was surprised by how much of the bar had to be replaced. “Vince told us, he goes, ‘I had no idea that I was going to rebuild Tim’s entire bar.’” The APA's bar-fight material was also tied closely to the pair's beer-drinking gimmick. JBL confirmed that the beer seen during some of their segments was not always fake, which occasionally created problems when they had to perform afterward. He recalled one incident at the Staples Center when the APA had been drinking before they were suddenly told they needed to perform live. “We had sat back there and got drunk. Again. Is that a common occurrence? It was. We had real people ask if it was real beer. Yes. Yes, it was real every time. And they go, ‘Guys, you got to go live. You got to get this right this time.’ And I said, ‘Why are we about to go live?’ They go, ‘No, you’re slurring your words.’” The stories help explain why the APA's segments often felt different from standard WWE backstage skits. JBL and Simmons were not simply playing two characters who happened to fight in bars; their real friendship and willingness to participate in the chaos became a large part of what made the act work. JBL and Simmons have previously described the APA as a natural fit because of the close relationship they had developed over the years. In the interview, they also discussed how that friendship helped them create a tag team that felt believable to fans. The bar fights ultimately became one of the defining elements of the APA era, alongside their famous office, poker games, beer-drinking segments and the iconic door. The new details from JBL and Simmons show just how much of the destruction was built around practical setups, real reactions and the trust they had in each other.